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    Postby DoomJedi 24 Mar 2016, 18:17

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    Postby linuxwolf 25 Mar 2016, 03:46

    My new batman t-shirt :)

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    Postby DoomJedi 25 Mar 2016, 11:20

    Cool MB-((

    I'm going to see "Batman vs. Superman" in 3D with my wife later today.
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    Vote for me as the next Batman :D
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    Postby linuxwolf 25 Mar 2016, 14:01

    I hear Ben Affleck does an excellent job of it.
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    Postby Ron 25 Mar 2016, 14:53

    Yeah, hearing good things about Affleck. Not so much about the movie itself, nor the writing. Looks great on the surface, but very superficial/bad underneath it. Kinda expected, since Man of Steel was sorta the same.
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    Postby DoomJedi 25 Mar 2016, 15:38

    linuxwolf wrote:I hear Ben Affleck does an excellent job of it.
    me too. Some say he is the only sunshine of every scene he is part of. Cant wait for single batflick.
    Good things of Gadot as well
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    Postby Ron 25 Mar 2016, 15:51

    I do hope they cool it down with the Batman killing/sadistically branding criminals in his solo flick. Not cool.
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    Postby DoomJedi 25 Mar 2016, 16:53

    I actually like to see for the first time Batman actually kicks ass in hand to hand combat
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    Postby DoomJedi 26 Mar 2016, 13:33

    I'll probably write a detailed review later, when I'll have the time.

    Huge dissapointment for me. Big flop. As critics say - too long, boring for the most of it, too dark, too self-serious, bad script. My friend (DC comics fan BTW) even slept half of it.
    Indeed best Batman ever, kudos to Afflek. Very good musical score indeed. Legendary key scenes - Batman vs. Superman, Batman vs. Thugs etc done perfectly - basically no reason to see the movie, best parts are already in the trailers.
    Director seem to be a bad director. Key scenes, particular scenes - he knows to do well. But movie - is a concept too big for Snyder. Between some key scenes - he really doesn't know what to do with the movie, with the script. It's long, boring, action-less and pointless.

    Watched "Dark Knight" right now.
    Maaan what a difference. Love Nolan movies even more now, SOOOO much better. Less good batman (perfect movie would be all Nolan stuff + Affleck's Batman), but what a script, writing, skill and talent to do movies...I watched it like 10 times, and no time to breathe during it, whole other league of movie-making. While Snyder movies is good stuff to get asleep with.

    The movie takes itself too seriously and so looks at time like a dramatic parody of itself with it's dramatic pathos enhanced by dramatic music score.
    It's more dramatic than it's actual comics material.
    To deal with it - it seems Snyder prefers too long "preparation" for the characters so we'll get more invested in them emotionally - but the result is long and boring actionless parts of the movie. 2.5 hours is soooo too much for this movie...even 2 hours is too much for it.
    Jessie Eisenberg seemed to forget which character he actually needs to play, and instead focused on proving the directors he coud be a good Joker.

    Alot of inspiration from "The Dark Knight Returns".

    I think fans will hate the movie as much as critics will.
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    Postby Ron 27 Mar 2016, 20:40

    Quite disappointing indeed. Didn't have high expectations, but even then... really a bad movie. Though I must say, it started off quite well. Affleck is good, and the destruction of Metropolis from his perspective was quite a good opener. But there's so many weird stuff in here that did not work for me. All those dream sequences, of which there were way too many; a big middle part which was really boring; the odd placement of the Justice League cameos, right in front of the BvS battle; overall odd scene transitions. Really just a mess of a movie.

    Good stuff:
    -Affleck is quite good, though the motivations for Batman were very poorly written
    -Gadot seems fine in a role that is really unnecessary in this film
    -Wayne in Metropolis is quite a good scene
    -Batman action is good
    -Jeremy Irons as Alfred

    The so-so stuff:
    -Eisenberg as Lex Luther. Not good, but it felt like Eisenberg was aware that this movie was bad, so he just went full Nicolas Cage. Nevertheless, some stuff around him was so unpleasantly written (the piss gag) that it reflected badly upon him.
    -Cavill as Superman is kinda boring, because Superman is badly written in this movie. However, Cavill still has a nice presence. He just needs a tad of the charisme he had in his role in The Men from UNCLE.
    -Batman hitting Superman with a sink. Unintentional, but I laughed hard. xD

    Bad stuff:
    -Snyder needs to cool it with the Jesus symbolism. We get it.
    -Superman & Batman killing people.
    -The tone of the movie is just unpleasant.
    -The ending is, again, a bunch of disaster/destruction porn. Bored me to tears.
    -The Martha scene. I mean, come on.
    -Bad writing overall.
    -Unnecessary JL cameos.
    -All those fucking dream sequences
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    Postby DoomJedi 28 Mar 2016, 08:41

    Good review, agree for the most of it, if not all of it.

    -Superman & Batman killing people.
    I myself don't have a problem, especially Batman who is long time older grumpy pissed off Batman who should already be okay with breaking the code from time to time, and Batman is a vigilante in his core, not a pure hero. Only Sith deals with absolutes MB-(( . I understand though how it's problematic with defining Batman character.

    -The ending is, again, a bunch of disaster/destruction porn. Bored me to tears.
    I actually liked it. Beside weird Luis Lane stuff, who was totally redundant there.

    -The Martha scene. I mean, come on.
    What's the problem? I thought it was cool.

    -Unnecessary JL cameos
    Necessary Justice-League movie-wise.

    -All those fucking dream sequences
    They should make it a law with prison sentence to make action movies where most of the action comes from dreams.
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    Postby Ron 28 Mar 2016, 23:45

    DoomJedi wrote:
    -Superman & Batman killing people.
    I myself don't have a problem, especially Batman who is long time older grumpy pissed off Batman who should already be okay with breaking the code from time to time, and Batman is a vigilante in his core, not a pure hero. Only Sith deals with absolutes MB-(( . I understand though how it's problematic with defining Batman character.


    I would be more fine with it if it was done in an interesting way, but now it was mostly done because 'cool' action. And that's just stupid.

    -The Martha scene. I mean, come on.
    What's the problem? I thought it was cool.


    It's so cheesy and just.. ugh, I thought it was terrible. They go from *I want to kill you* to *our moms have the same name, let's be best buds forever*. It's terribly handled. And what makes it more terrible is that it's obvious that the director thought this would be a really big emotional moment in the movie; but for me it fell completely flat. In fact, I laughed really hard at this moment. And I do kinda see what they were going for, but their motivations are handled so poorly and the moment is so unearned, that it has the opposite effect of what they intended on me.

    -Unnecessary JL cameos
    Necessary Justice-League movie-wise.


    I don't know. Even if they do have to add this, then do it in a more organic, interesting way. It was more like 'we now interrupt your movie for three poorly shot cameos'. Especially Aquaman, where it was clearly just a guy holding his breath underwater while waving with a stick, was laughable. There should have been a more organic way to introduce the Justice League. It's basically the same problem Iron Man 2 had, where S.H.I.E.L.D was shoehorned into the movie. Momentum-killer.
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    Postby DoomJedi 29 Mar 2016, 07:56

    Ron wrote:
    -The Martha scene. I mean, come on.
    What's the problem? I thought it was cool.


    It's so cheesy and just.. ugh, I thought it was terrible. They go from *I want to kill you* to *our moms have the same name, let's be best buds forever*. It's terribly handled. And what makes it more terrible is that it's obvious that the director thought this would be a really big emotional moment in the movie; but for me it fell completely flat. In fact, I laughed really hard at this moment. And I do kinda see what they were going for, but their motivations are handled so poorly and the moment is so unearned, that it has the opposite effect of what they intended on me.

    For me it totally worked. Not for the "Mom have same name" thing, but the message it had for Bruce...like a message from his dead Mom, that in killing Superman he'll kill her again and what she stood for...the good in him....
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    Postby Lozer_42 30 Mar 2016, 15:27

    Having not seen it but having heard a lot from people elsewhere and here I can say, Zach Snyder is just not a great director. His movies have gotten less and less enjoyable with each proceeding one. Each more disappointing than the previous. The best way I can describe it is that all of the movies he does have the potential to be extremely moving, emotionally, politically, socially, but at best they only reach 80% of their potential. Man of Steel I thought was a good example of what I mean but this. At best the potential is there, but Snyder never even attempts to reach for it and instead goes for the superficial flash.
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    Postby DoomJedi 30 Mar 2016, 15:36

    Lozer_42 wrote:goes for the superficial flash.

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