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    Postby DoomJedi 28 Mar 2016, 08:41

    Good review, agree for the most of it, if not all of it.

    -Superman & Batman killing people.
    I myself don't have a problem, especially Batman who is long time older grumpy pissed off Batman who should already be okay with breaking the code from time to time, and Batman is a vigilante in his core, not a pure hero. Only Sith deals with absolutes MB-(( . I understand though how it's problematic with defining Batman character.

    -The ending is, again, a bunch of disaster/destruction porn. Bored me to tears.
    I actually liked it. Beside weird Luis Lane stuff, who was totally redundant there.

    -The Martha scene. I mean, come on.
    What's the problem? I thought it was cool.

    -Unnecessary JL cameos
    Necessary Justice-League movie-wise.

    -All those fucking dream sequences
    They should make it a law with prison sentence to make action movies where most of the action comes from dreams.
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    Postby Ron 28 Mar 2016, 23:45

    DoomJedi wrote:
    -Superman & Batman killing people.
    I myself don't have a problem, especially Batman who is long time older grumpy pissed off Batman who should already be okay with breaking the code from time to time, and Batman is a vigilante in his core, not a pure hero. Only Sith deals with absolutes MB-(( . I understand though how it's problematic with defining Batman character.


    I would be more fine with it if it was done in an interesting way, but now it was mostly done because 'cool' action. And that's just stupid.

    -The Martha scene. I mean, come on.
    What's the problem? I thought it was cool.


    It's so cheesy and just.. ugh, I thought it was terrible. They go from *I want to kill you* to *our moms have the same name, let's be best buds forever*. It's terribly handled. And what makes it more terrible is that it's obvious that the director thought this would be a really big emotional moment in the movie; but for me it fell completely flat. In fact, I laughed really hard at this moment. And I do kinda see what they were going for, but their motivations are handled so poorly and the moment is so unearned, that it has the opposite effect of what they intended on me.

    -Unnecessary JL cameos
    Necessary Justice-League movie-wise.


    I don't know. Even if they do have to add this, then do it in a more organic, interesting way. It was more like 'we now interrupt your movie for three poorly shot cameos'. Especially Aquaman, where it was clearly just a guy holding his breath underwater while waving with a stick, was laughable. There should have been a more organic way to introduce the Justice League. It's basically the same problem Iron Man 2 had, where S.H.I.E.L.D was shoehorned into the movie. Momentum-killer.
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    Postby DoomJedi 29 Mar 2016, 07:56

    Ron wrote:
    -The Martha scene. I mean, come on.
    What's the problem? I thought it was cool.


    It's so cheesy and just.. ugh, I thought it was terrible. They go from *I want to kill you* to *our moms have the same name, let's be best buds forever*. It's terribly handled. And what makes it more terrible is that it's obvious that the director thought this would be a really big emotional moment in the movie; but for me it fell completely flat. In fact, I laughed really hard at this moment. And I do kinda see what they were going for, but their motivations are handled so poorly and the moment is so unearned, that it has the opposite effect of what they intended on me.

    For me it totally worked. Not for the "Mom have same name" thing, but the message it had for Bruce...like a message from his dead Mom, that in killing Superman he'll kill her again and what she stood for...the good in him....
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    Postby Lozer_42 30 Mar 2016, 15:27

    Having not seen it but having heard a lot from people elsewhere and here I can say, Zach Snyder is just not a great director. His movies have gotten less and less enjoyable with each proceeding one. Each more disappointing than the previous. The best way I can describe it is that all of the movies he does have the potential to be extremely moving, emotionally, politically, socially, but at best they only reach 80% of their potential. Man of Steel I thought was a good example of what I mean but this. At best the potential is there, but Snyder never even attempts to reach for it and instead goes for the superficial flash.
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    Postby DoomJedi 30 Mar 2016, 15:36

    Lozer_42 wrote:goes for the superficial flash.

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    Postby Ron 30 Mar 2016, 19:18

    This sums it up pretty nicely, for me: http://www.vox.com/2016/3/30/11329886/b ... ack-snyder
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    Postby Officer-Michael John 10 Apr 2016, 12:00

    DoomJedi the new Batman.
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    Postby DoomJedi 10 Apr 2016, 12:03

    Officer-Michael John wrote:DoomJedi the new Batman.

    Thanks :)
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    Postby Officer-Michael John 10 Apr 2016, 12:06

    You're Welcome DoomJedi! :)
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